Commentaires sur : Arnaque boursière sur netnetnet.tv par Artemis Financial http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/ Rien de tel qu'un blog pour partager ses projets les plus fous Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:58:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Par : MOUTTON http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19335 MOUTTON Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:37:26 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19335 Sur Rhone Alpes FRANCE bee one holding : société diffusant le genre de titre en pré introduction boursière ... marché de gré à gré ... smart technologie , GBDP ... via le crédit Suisse Lauzane SUISSE mafia!!! Sur Rhone Alpes FRANCE bee one holding : société diffusant le genre de titre en pré introduction boursière … marché de gré à gré …
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]]> Par : no kidding http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19229 no kidding Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:08:06 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19229 Just a well done script; if a operative is struggling to get the yes answer they bring in another guy (the floor manager) to give you the right objection scripts and the coaching. I'm sorry Portway have ripped you off, please contact me on relishskateuk@aol.com to find out their location to get them prosecuted (if you know the right authorities). Just a well done script; if a operative is struggling to get the yes answer they bring in another guy (the floor manager) to give you the right objection scripts and the coaching.

I’m sorry Portway have ripped you off, please contact me on relishskateuk@aol.com to find out their location to get them prosecuted (if you know the right authorities).

]]> Par : no kidding http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19227 no kidding Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:46:43 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19227 ^^ not all companies but most are located in countries where it's difficult to be prosecuted for fraud commited overseas. They are just offices with phones and scripts. ^^ not all companies but most are located in countries where it’s difficult to be prosecuted for fraud commited overseas.

They are just offices with phones and scripts.

]]> Par : KJ http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19226 KJ Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:41:01 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19226 I invested with Portway Capital into a company called Asia Electrical Power (AEPW:OTC). Despite my wish not to contact me every week they started to offer me swapping "my" shares into another one if I will invest additional money. I denied this and asked them not to offer me this kind of deals. I was prepared to wait what will happend with AEPW shares in the future because I still believed the facts that all prospects are correct. After two weeks I was contacted again. They offered me to enter into a private deal which will secure my shares if I will buy additional shares of AEPW. Even I told them that I don't want to invest another money they presured me into saying yes on the end of conversation. To their credits I must say that their technique of conversation is very sophisticated. 30 minutes later I wrote them that I will not pay any other money and asked them to getting me a bid for selling my shares. They said me that my account is frozen now and that I must paid additional money because I agreed with that per phone. So I propably lost a few thousands of dollars and I because I am naive I became a potentional debtor. But every thing has two sides. It was/is/will be expensive but important experience for my life which can prevent me against losing more money in the future. Some facts about what's called Portway Capital: Tel: +33 5 67 69 91 16 Fax: +33 5 67 69 91 17 Email: admin@portwaycapital.com Web: www.portwaycapital.com 17, Rue Caillou Residence du Parc Ceres Batiment C 33200 Bordeaux France I invested with Portway Capital into a company called Asia Electrical Power (AEPW:OTC). Despite my wish not to contact me every week they started to offer me swapping “my” shares into another one if I will invest additional money. I denied this and asked them not to offer me this kind of deals. I was prepared to wait what will happend with AEPW shares in the future because I still believed the facts that all prospects are correct.

After two weeks I was contacted again. They offered me to enter into a private deal which will secure my shares if I will buy additional shares of AEPW. Even I told them that I don’t want to invest another money they presured me into saying yes on the end of conversation. To their credits I must say that their technique of conversation is very sophisticated. 30 minutes later I wrote them that I will not pay any other money and asked them to getting me a bid for selling my shares. They said me that my account is frozen now and that I must paid additional money because I agreed with that per phone. So I propably lost a few thousands of dollars and I because I am naive I became a potentional debtor.

But every thing has two sides. It was/is/will be expensive but important experience for my life which can prevent me against losing more money in the future.

Some facts about what’s called Portway Capital:

Tel: +33 5 67 69 91 16
Fax: +33 5 67 69 91 17
Email: admin@portwaycapital.com
Web: http://www.portwaycapital.com

17, Rue Caillou
Residence du Parc Ceres
Batiment C
33200 Bordeaux
France

]]> Par : no kidding http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19220 no kidding Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:01:44 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19220 no kinnding ? could it mean that all these “companies” could be located in reality, there in Kuala Lumpur ? YES!!!!!!!!!!! no kinnding ? could it mean that all these “companies” could be located in reality, there in Kuala Lumpur ?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> Par : no kidding http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19219 no kidding Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:51:58 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19219 They are located all over asia, europe, america anywhere!!!! Search Brinton group Bangkok! they cheated Australians. All the boiler rooms then moved out of bangkok to Laos, Malaysia etc. I know the excact location of the boiler room that is Portway capital in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia. I just don't know how the authorities can get them. They are located all over asia, europe, america anywhere!!!!

Search Brinton group Bangkok! they cheated Australians. All the boiler rooms then moved out of bangkok to Laos, Malaysia etc.

I know the excact location of the boiler room that is Portway capital in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia. I just don’t know how the authorities can get them.

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19193 gogol Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:56:36 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19193 no kinnding ? could it mean that all these "companies" could be located in reality, there in Kuala Lumpur ? no kinnding ? could it mean that all these “companies” could be located in reality, there in Kuala Lumpur ?

]]> Par : no kidding http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19173 no kidding Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:37:26 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19173 Portway Capital are a boiler room located in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia in the CBD Bintang, I live in SE Asia and I know this information is correct. I believe they are still selling false stocks in China Energy Corporation, www.ceccec.com targeting French, Germans and Italians maybe English. The Director is English and they have South Africans and Eastern Europeans working for them. I don't know how to report them, just hope this helps someone else and they can be prevented before moving on. Regards Portway Capital are a boiler room

located in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia in the CBD Bintang, I live in SE Asia and I know this information is correct.

I believe they are still selling false stocks in China Energy Corporation, http://www.ceccec.com targeting French, Germans and Italians maybe English.

The Director is English and they have South Africans and Eastern Europeans working for them.

I don’t know how to report them, just hope this helps someone else and they can be prevented before moving on.

Regards

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19151 gogol Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:00:46 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19151 and btw edward fitzpatrick, anyone can just find his address near geneva and phone number in the swiss phone directories 3 x w dot DIRECTORIES.CH So why don't you just call him and ask ? and btw edward fitzpatrick, anyone can just find his address near geneva and phone number in the swiss phone directories

3 x w dot DIRECTORIES.CH

So why don’t you just call him and ask ?

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19150 gogol Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:57:12 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19150 well, client-lostitall, could you translate please what is the meaning of all this blabla here above ? (actually nothing new for those who have been following this...) well, client-lostitall, could you translate please what is the meaning of all this blabla here above ? (actually nothing new for those who have been following this…)

]]> Par : client Lostitall http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19126 client Lostitall Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:25:36 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19126 As some of you are asking what to do next, here is a suggestion: Lets open a blog, "the Fitzpatrick Valentine complain area", who is well experienced to do this? We can then link it to as many financial pages as possible. Lets complain independently to every possible authority, I am preparing files and will send them to the appropriate ones. Now, some more information : Roland Kuemin was fired as well, he replaced Walker and please get this guys, Richard Walker is no longer there, he was fired as well my source confirmed yesterday. Mr. Walker was a hired director, apparently he has lend his services to other listed companies, a common practice, and as well served in anothers represented by Thaler Fund. In short, he just got paid to do his job, file documents and prepare prospects, don't waste time and energy there as nothing will happen. Mr. Wolf, apparently another director for hire and is a resident of Germany. CONFIRMED: Mr. Edward Fitzpatrick lives between Geneva and Liechtenstein. I have no interest in Mr. Walker, Bauld or Wolfe, every source confirms the same, they were just pawns in the game and for hire. The focus , Fitzpatrick and Valentine, they will keep doing harm and stealing money from victims like you all if we do not spread the word. The trick that really works is: They get management, make you believe they are responsible when things don't work out and then get your attention somewhere else because you all follow the wrong lead. Thaler - Liechtesntein Fitzpatrick - Geneva - Liechtenstein Valentine - Still doing some work here. The rest are the leads they want and need you to follow while they cover their traces. Wake up call. As some of you are asking what to do next, here is a suggestion:

Lets open a blog, “the Fitzpatrick Valentine complain area”, who is well experienced to do this?
We can then link it to as many financial pages as possible.

Lets complain independently to every possible authority, I am preparing files and will send them to the appropriate ones.

Now, some more information :

Roland Kuemin was fired as well, he replaced Walker and please get this guys, Richard Walker is no longer there, he was fired as well my source confirmed yesterday.

Mr. Walker was a hired director, apparently he has lend his services to other listed companies, a common practice, and as well served in anothers represented by Thaler Fund.

In short, he just got paid to do his job, file documents and prepare prospects, don’t waste time and energy there as nothing will happen.

Mr. Wolf, apparently another director for hire and is a resident of Germany.

CONFIRMED: Mr. Edward Fitzpatrick lives between Geneva and Liechtenstein.

I have no interest in Mr. Walker, Bauld or Wolfe, every source confirms the same, they were just pawns in the game and for hire.

The focus , Fitzpatrick and Valentine, they will keep doing harm and stealing money from victims like you all if we do not spread the word.

The trick that really works is:

They get management, make you believe they are responsible when things don’t work out and then get your attention somewhere else because you all follow the wrong lead.

Thaler - Liechtesntein

Fitzpatrick - Geneva - Liechtenstein

Valentine - Still doing some work here.

The rest are the leads they want and need you to follow while they cover their traces.

Wake up call.

]]> Par : Karsten Runerheim http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19112 Karsten Runerheim Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:04:56 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19112 Another thing we all can do is continue writing on this and other blogs. When I was first contacted by Artemis Financial I Googled their name and first only found their pressreleases, it was only when I dug further into the search results that I found this and other blogs. The more traffic this blog gets the further up in the Google search list this information lands. (I think) The financial authorities in Europe have also been very active lately. Whenever someone mentions a new boiler room name and I Google that I usually find the warnings from the financial authorities at the top of the list. The best advice is of course one that has long been the mantra of the financial authorities world-wide: Never ever make deals with cold-calling companies whatever they call themselves. Can they do us any harm? I guess that the scammers are prepared. When the word is out about one boilerroom company they just fold their tent and pop up under a new name. And the masterminds behind it all are very good at covering their tracks. So let's go on sharing information about the scammers (and be aware that they are also reading these blogs) so that we can at least prevent others to fall into their traps. And hopefully some day we will get the whole picture of who is behind and where all that lost money went. Regards Karsten Another thing we all can do is continue writing on this and other blogs.
When I was first contacted by Artemis Financial I Googled their name and first only found their pressreleases, it was only when I dug further into the search results that I found this and other blogs. The more traffic this blog gets the further up in the Google search list this information lands. (I think)
The financial authorities in Europe have also been very active lately. Whenever someone mentions a new boiler room name and I Google that I usually find the warnings from the financial authorities at the top of the list.
The best advice is of course one that has long been the mantra of the financial authorities world-wide: Never ever make deals with cold-calling companies whatever they call themselves.
Can they do us any harm? I guess that the scammers are prepared. When the word is out about one boilerroom company they just fold their tent and pop up under a new name. And the masterminds behind it all are very good at covering their tracks.
So let’s go on sharing information about the scammers (and be aware that they are also reading these blogs) so that we can at least prevent others to fall into their traps. And hopefully some day we will get the whole picture of who is behind and where all that lost money went.
Regards
Karsten

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19110 gogol Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:08:02 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19110 one thing to do ... : Warn all friends and relatives. Where they are located : Some indications about some of these guys in Switzerland, and / or Asia or USA (see posts here above) Do any harm ? : One never knows. Do they read these blogs ? certainly yes. one thing to do … : Warn all friends and relatives.
Where they are located : Some indications about some of these guys in Switzerland, and / or Asia or USA (see posts here above)
Do any harm ? : One never knows.
Do they read these blogs ? certainly yes.

]]> Par : Skysurfer http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19107 Skysurfer Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:28:17 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19107 fully ACK: the question is how to warn other people. Regarding that, it would be good to know how these sons of a bitch are organized and what they would be able to do: - Do they know such kind of blogs and do they read them? - Where are they located and how long are their arms? - If they find out who is trying to disturb their business significantly, would they be able to do any harm (e.g., sending out their "dogs"...?) @Karsten: at this time, I do not want to make too much information about my deals public through this blog. But I'm still continuing thinking how to warn other people from being as foolish as I had been... fully ACK: the question is how to warn other people.
Regarding that, it would be good to know how these sons of a bitch are organized and what they would be able to do:
- Do they know such kind of blogs and do they read them?
- Where are they located and how long are their arms?
- If they find out who is trying to disturb their business significantly, would they be able to do any harm (e.g., sending out their “dogs”…?)

@Karsten: at this time, I do not want to make too much information about my deals public through this blog. But I’m still continuing thinking how to warn other people from being as foolish as I had been…

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19101 gogol Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:15:13 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19101 pfffff.... This Highland International Advisors claims to be located in Switzerland. just check the Swiss "Handelsregister" : ZEFIX.CH In any case we all who check out this website consider ourselves warned. the question is how to warn other people.... pfffff….
This Highland International Advisors claims to be located in Switzerland.

just check the Swiss “Handelsregister” : ZEFIX.CH

In any case we all who check out this website consider ourselves warned. the question is how to warn other people….

]]> Par : another victim http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19094 another victim Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:41:44 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19094 Hello out there... ... they are starting again with another financial advisor company and another company selling shares. as usual, just got a call before from someone trying to warm up older contacts. And then they sent an inormative email introducing themselves and including up-to-date press releases of the newly promoted company which has some surprising 380 % growth potential. The company is "Medical Connections", the advisors are Highland International Advisors. Consider yourself warned. Hello out there…

… they are starting again with another financial advisor company and another company selling shares. as usual, just got a call before from someone trying to warm up older contacts. And then they sent an inormative email introducing themselves and including up-to-date press releases of the newly promoted company which has some surprising 380 % growth potential.

The company is “Medical Connections”, the advisors are Highland International Advisors.

Consider yourself warned.

]]> Par : Karsten Runerheim http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19078 Karsten Runerheim Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:29:11 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19078 Skysurfer I have been following the different blogs on this subject for a long time and in a very few instances people claim to have gotten some of their money back. If this is true I don't know, but I would say that 99% of the victims never get their money back. If they really buy stock or just fake it may differ. And even if you really get the actual stock you will probably be sitting with worthless or unsellable paper. Two questions: In what company is Portway selling stock (boiler rooms usually have only one item to sell) and what bank does Portway use for money transfer? Regards Karsten Skysurfer
I have been following the different blogs on this subject for a long time and in a very few instances people claim to have gotten some of their money back. If this is true I don’t know, but I would say that 99% of the victims never get their money back.
If they really buy stock or just fake it may differ. And even if you really get
the actual stock you will probably be sitting with worthless or unsellable paper.
Two questions: In what company is Portway selling stock (boiler rooms usually have only one item to sell) and what bank does Portway use for money transfer?
Regards
Karsten

]]> Par : Skysurfer http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19076 Skysurfer Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:05:22 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19076 Unfortunately, I did not see the warning of our financial authority earlier... (f***!!!) So I understand they are promising things they never can meet, just to convice their "customers" (or better: victims) to put more money onto their bank account. But I wonder what happens to this money: Do they really buy stocks with the money or are all those "purchase confirmations" also fakes. Is there any chance to get the money back (or at least a part of it?). Or with other words: Did any of the victims ever get some money back? Unfortunately, I did not see the warning of our financial authority earlier… (f***!!!)

So I understand they are promising things they never can meet, just to convice their “customers” (or better: victims) to put more money onto their bank account. But I wonder what happens to this money: Do they really buy stocks with the money or are all those “purchase confirmations” also fakes. Is there any chance to get the money back (or at least a part of it?). Or with other words: Did any of the victims ever get some money back?

]]> Par : Karsten Runerheim http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19075 Karsten Runerheim Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:54:04 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19075 Skysurfer I definitely agree with gogol. Their MO seems identical with all the other boiler rooms: website design, the flooding of free press release sites with all kinds of press releases during a limited period etc. In the warning from the swedish authorities it says that they are trying to sell american OTC stock. Would be interesting to know in what company. Regards Karsten Skysurfer
I definitely agree with gogol. Their MO seems identical with all the other boiler rooms: website design, the flooding of free press release sites with all kinds of press releases during a limited period etc.
In the warning from the swedish authorities it says that they are trying to sell american OTC stock. Would be interesting to know in what company.
Regards
Karsten

]]> Par : gogol http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19072 gogol Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:46:58 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/08/31/arnaque-boursiere-artemis/#comment-19072 Portway capital : Their web-site looks identical to the other boiler-room brokers. Lots of "press-releases" on the internet, all only recent. Finanstilsynet in Sweden (governmental banking and finance supervision organisation) is warning about their illegal activities. so .... ??? I suppose you Skysurfer was first called by some guy doing a "survey" asking you some basic questions about investment habits, etc, ? Then a few days later you just got a friendly call from someone presenting himself as working for Portway, but who was "not trying to sell anything" ? Then he called again starting to talk about some interesting company and placement that he happened to be aware of ? .... well, just like all the other guys here contacvted by various such "brokers" : same people, different names... In any case you can be sure the guy calling is not located in France as he claims. Portway capital : Their web-site looks identical to the other boiler-room brokers. Lots of “press-releases” on the internet, all only recent. Finanstilsynet in Sweden (governmental banking and finance supervision organisation) is warning about their illegal activities. so …. ???

I suppose you Skysurfer was first called by some guy doing a “survey” asking you some basic questions about investment habits, etc, ? Then a few days later you just got a friendly call from someone presenting himself as working for Portway, but who was “not trying to sell anything” ? Then he called again starting to talk about some interesting company and placement that he happened to be aware of ? …. well, just like all the other guys here contacvted by various such “brokers” : same people, different names… In any case you can be sure the guy calling is not located in France as he claims.

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