Commentaires sur : Planet Debian for users ? http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/ Rien de tel qu'un blog pour partager ses projets les plus fous Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:41:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Par : Olivier Berger http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-18457 Olivier Berger Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:16:29 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-18457 Too bad, that las post by h01ger didn't appear asa URL... Actually, clicking on h01ger redirects you... but I din't notice. So: http://planet.debian-community.org/ , again ;) Too bad, that las post by h01ger didn’t appear asa URL…

Actually, clicking on h01ger redirects you… but I din’t notice.

So: http://planet.debian-community.org/ , again ;)

]]> Par : h01ger http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12369 h01ger Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:07:08 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12369 planet.debian-community.org is now up and running, feel free to add your feeds there and to request planets in other languages than german and english. Patches for the stylesheet are welcome too :-) planet.debian-community.org is now up and running, feel free to add your feeds there and to request planets in other languages than german and english.

Patches for the stylesheet are welcome too :-)

]]> Par : SXW http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12314 SXW Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:54:48 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12314 Very good idea. I think contributers should be allowed to write about other stuff than just Debian too, although focus should remain on Debian / Linux, as long as there is the possibility to filter on categories. Very good idea. I think contributers should be allowed to write about other stuff than just Debian too, although focus should remain on Debian / Linux, as long as there is the possibility to filter on categories.

]]> Par : wjl (Wolfgang Lonien) http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12310 wjl (Wolfgang Lonien) Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:02:47 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12310 @Buxy: Cool - go for it. Can't wait to see more users of Debian write cool HowTos, hardware tests and stuff. Maybe an included search like <a href="http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/21/google-custom-search-engine/" rel="nofollow">etbe described it here</a> would be helpful? One example to pinpoint the use of that: If you are looking for the best possible NAS device for @ home, which can be turned into a full-fledged Debian server, it's sometimes hard to find entries like the one from <a href="http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/" rel="nofollow">Martin</a>, or even that cool <a href="http://kurobox.com/revolution/what.html" rel="nofollow">Japanese device</a> someone was blogging about quite a while ago. Having some meta-search over all the subscribed blogs would help a lot in that regard IMHO. Anyway: I'm very thankful for Planet Debian already, and for all of you who share their Debian-related stuff there. A users' planet like you have it in mind would be very welcome. @Buxy: Cool - go for it. Can’t wait to see more users of Debian write cool HowTos, hardware tests and stuff. Maybe an included search like etbe described it here would be helpful? One example to pinpoint the use of that:

If you are looking for the best possible NAS device for @ home, which can be turned into a full-fledged Debian server, it’s sometimes hard to find entries like the one from Martin, or even that cool Japanese device someone was blogging about quite a while ago. Having some meta-search over all the subscribed blogs would help a lot in that regard IMHO.

Anyway: I’m very thankful for Planet Debian already, and for all of you who share their Debian-related stuff there. A users’ planet like you have it in mind would be very welcome.

]]> Par : Dave http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12309 Dave Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:48:14 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12309 I'd also be interested in being aggregated on a planet for Debian users. My blog isn't strictly technical, but I'm sure that just a feed for just technical Debian related posts could be used. I’d also be interested in being aggregated on a planet for Debian users. My blog isn’t strictly technical, but I’m sure that just a feed for just technical Debian related posts could be used.

]]> Par : Scurz http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12306 Scurz Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:54:29 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12306 A english planet for debian users is a very good idea because currently, only debian developers can put their feed on planet.debian.org, too bad ! I'm in accord with you ! A english planet for debian users is a very good idea because currently, only debian developers can put their feed on planet.debian.org, too bad !

I’m in accord with you !

]]> Par : Dubacq http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12303 Dubacq Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:37:53 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12303 As a matter of fact, I am a Debian user (have been for a long time), never took the resolve to pass through NM (I do not know what I should maintain, I am not a good translator, I do bug reports and try to investigate them deep enough so as to post patch with them)... But I do post on Debian, specifically. I updated things, posted workarounds, raised questions... My feed is at http://jean-christophe.dubacq.fr/index.php?tag/debian and I hope it would be of interest to Debian users/readers. As a matter of fact, I am a Debian user (have been for a long time), never took the resolve to pass through NM (I do not know what I should maintain, I am not a good translator, I do bug reports and try to investigate them deep enough so as to post patch with them)… But I do post on Debian, specifically. I updated things, posted workarounds, raised questions… My feed is at http://jean-christophe.dubacq.fr/index.php?tag/debian and I hope it would be of interest to Debian users/readers.

]]> Par : Lucas Nussbaum http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12294 Lucas Nussbaum Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:57:37 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12294 Maybe a Planet Debian Users would be a good opportunity to find people interested in improving the planetplanet codebase (or another planet implementation). planetplanet has been quite idle AFAIK, and there could definitely be some improvements. Like votes, feeds excluding some posters, archives, etc. I'm not sure that hosting this on gluck.d.o is a good idea, because it might be a problem with future improvements (for example, if the planet uses a DB as backend). On another topic, it would be great to discuss a policy right from the start. Stuff like: "it's considered excessive to post more than 2 times a week." Maybe a Planet Debian Users would be a good opportunity to find people interested in improving the planetplanet codebase (or another planet implementation). planetplanet has been quite idle AFAIK, and there could definitely be some improvements. Like votes, feeds excluding some posters, archives, etc. I’m not sure that hosting this on gluck.d.o is a good idea, because it might be a problem with future improvements (for example, if the planet uses a DB as backend).

On another topic, it would be great to discuss a policy right from the start. Stuff like: “it’s considered excessive to post more than 2 times a week.”

]]> Par : Buxy http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12292 Buxy Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:20:44 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12292 @Lucas, what sounds boring to us might be interesting to others... the technical level might drop, but on the other hand it might also bring the attention of a few knowledgeable people on some dubious advice posted on a personal blog which would then get some proper warnings in the comments. As for the vote system, it would be great if planet-libre was free... but right now it isn't, so you'll have to reinvent the feature. :-) @Mind, wjl: thanks for the offers, but it should be trivial to create planet.debian.org/users/ on our machine that already hosts the current planet . Then if we host it on debian-community.org as suggested by Holger, I guess the situation is the same... @Ana, if people blog about unrelated stuff, then we remove their feeds. It shouldn't be too difficult to have people respect the policy that we define. And the day when its success makes it a problem, we can always adjust our rules if really needed. @Lucas, what sounds boring to us might be interesting to others… the technical level might drop, but on the other hand it might also bring the attention of a few knowledgeable people on some dubious advice posted on a personal blog which would then get some proper warnings in the comments.

As for the vote system, it would be great if planet-libre was free… but right now it isn’t, so you’ll have to reinvent the feature. :-)

@Mind, wjl: thanks for the offers, but it should be trivial to create planet.debian.org/users/ on our machine that already hosts the current planet . Then if we host it on debian-community.org as suggested by Holger, I guess the situation is the same…

@Ana, if people blog about unrelated stuff, then we remove their feeds. It shouldn’t be too difficult to have people respect the policy that we define. And the day when its success makes it a problem, we can always adjust our rules if really needed.

]]> Par : Mind Booster Noori http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12281 Mind Booster Noori Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:35:08 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12281 I'm up to it: if it is considered a good idea, I'm offering to build, host and maintain it. Also, I think that the issue Ana (and others) said could be easilly fixed with the use of tags... I’m up to it: if it is considered a good idea, I’m offering to build, host and maintain it. Also, I think that the issue Ana (and others) said could be easilly fixed with the use of tags…

]]> Par : wjl (Wolfgang Lonien) http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12280 wjl (Wolfgang Lonien) Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:33:25 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12280 An excellent idea. I thought about something like this when I started <a href="http://blog.thedebianuser.org/" rel="nofollow">The Debian User</a> some year ago, but simply didn't want to make just another non-official site (means: not on debian.org or debian.net). I had that idea again when I learned of Holger's debian-community.org, but we never had the time to work things out... I *did* set up a subdomain planet.thedebianuser.org tho, so it would only be a matter of copying the latest planet software onto it - the dependencies (python) are met. But maybe we should discuss the official way? Will you come to Systems? I'm one of the volunteers there, running the Debian booth/stand. kind regards, Wolfgang An excellent idea. I thought about something like this when I started The Debian User some year ago, but simply didn’t want to make just another non-official site (means: not on debian.org or debian.net).

I had that idea again when I learned of Holger’s debian-community.org, but we never had the time to work things out…

I *did* set up a subdomain planet.thedebianuser.org tho, so it would only be a matter of copying the latest planet software onto it - the dependencies (python) are met.

But maybe we should discuss the official way? Will you come to Systems? I’m one of the volunteers there, running the Debian booth/stand.

kind regards,
Wolfgang

]]> Par : Ana http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12279 Ana Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:04:02 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12279 I like the idea, but I'm afraid it could die of success: too many people will ask to be aggregated and they will end blogging about non technical stuff... that will make the users' planet a bunch of unrelated blogs... Plus, some people will end blogging about polemical stuff (i.e. political ideas) An alternative can be a listing of users blogs, it is not exactly the same, but you always can go, take a look and subscribe to the feeds of the blogs you find interesting. I like the idea, but I’m afraid it could die of success: too many people will ask to be aggregated and they will end blogging about non technical stuff… that will make the users’ planet a bunch of unrelated blogs… Plus, some people will end blogging about polemical stuff (i.e. political ideas)

An alternative can be a listing of users blogs, it is not exactly the same, but you always can go, take a look and subscribe to the feeds of the blogs you find interesting.

]]> Par : i5513 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12278 i5513 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:11 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12278 When wiki.debian.org/packages/package-name, where doc about the package could be filled with wiki stile ? A template like: Authors: License: HomePage: Versions in debian: Popcorn: Description: Common Uses: Tips: Bugs: Links: It would be a great idea. This page shoud be accesible from packages.debian.org/package-name Debian Rocks ! When wiki.debian.org/packages/package-name, where doc about the package could be filled with wiki stile ?

A template like:

Authors:
License:
HomePage:
Versions in debian:
Popcorn:
Description:
Common Uses:
Tips:
Bugs:
Links:

It would be a great idea.

This page shoud be accesible from packages.debian.org/package-name

Debian Rocks !

]]> Par : Carlos http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12277 Carlos Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:17:38 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12277 Actually the Portuguese community[1] has something like that[2], but the subjects are not always related to Debian. It's more like a place where debianistas say something :P [1]- http://www.debianpt.org [2]- http://planet.debianpt.org/ Actually the Portuguese community[1] has something like that[2], but the subjects are not always related to Debian. It’s more like a place where debianistas say something :P

[1]- http://www.debianpt.org
[2]- http://planet.debianpt.org/

]]> Par : h01ger http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12275 h01ger Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:42:46 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12275 i think a planet for users is an exellent idea and propose(d) to have it on planet.debian-community.org using ikiwiki. I'd also propose to have many planet.CC.d-c.org there... i think a planet for users is an exellent idea and propose(d) to have it on planet.debian-community.org using ikiwiki. I’d also propose to have many planet.CC.d-c.org there…

]]> Par : Lucas Nussbaum http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12272 Lucas Nussbaum Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:56:25 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12272 I'm not sure. I fear that it would turn out to be like Planet Ubuntu (where some posters, who post very frequently and only about trivial howtos, are totally boring). If there's a voting system like planet-libre's, it might work. I’m not sure. I fear that it would turn out to be like Planet Ubuntu (where some posters, who post very frequently and only about trivial howtos, are totally boring). If there’s a voting system like planet-libre’s, it might work.

]]> Par : mako http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12271 mako Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:49:40 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12271 Sounds like a reasonable idea. Sounds like a reasonable idea.

]]> Par : Olivier Berger http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12270 Olivier Berger Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:36:38 +0000 http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2007/09/19/planet-debian-for-users/#comment-12270 Count me in ;) I have a Debian tag for some of my posts : http://www-public.int-edu.eu/~berger_o/weblog/tag/debian ...which are mostly in english although I'm a french native speaker ;) Count me in ;)

I have a Debian tag for some of my posts : http://www-public.int-edu.eu/~berger_o/weblog/tag/debian …which are mostly in english although I’m a french native speaker ;)

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